Cybersecurity Engineer Salary in Germany

Cybersecurity Engineer jobs in Germany hiring now at vetted startups and product companies on Alion, updated daily. Average salary around $102,847/year. Compare remote, hybrid and on-site positions with relocation and visa sponsorship. Browse and apply today.

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Kiteworks

kiteworks.com
kiteworks.com · HQ: Palo Alto, United States · Security Compliance · Cybersecurity · Artificial Intelligence · Information Security · Data Loss Prevention · 51-200 employees · Startup · Trust A · Hiring 28, 5 new
HQ: Palo Alto, United States · Security Compliance · Cybersecurity · Artificial Intelligence · Information Security · Data Loss Prevention · 51-200 employees · Startup · Trust A · Hiring 28, 5 new
Kiteworks governs sensitive data access, use, and sharing — with built-in compliance for employees and AI agents alike. One control plane for every workflow.
Glen Segal · Executive Officer · decision-maker
Jonathan Yaron · Executive Officer, Director · decision-maker
Joshua Kuma · Director
Michael Kosty · Director
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Senior Information Security Officer

$78k – $90k per year · Equity · Senior · 5+ years exp · Hybrid (Germany) · Full-Time · Senior · English: C1
AI Agents
Cybersecurity
SOC 2
ISO 27001
GDPR
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Senior Security Engineer

$84k – $95k per year · Equity · Senior · 5+ years exp · Hybrid (Germany) · Full-Time · Senior · English
AI Agents
DevOps
Terraform
AWS
Cybersecurity
Orca Security
SIEM
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InnsalzachJobs

innsalzachjobs.de
innsalzachjobs.de · HQ: Rosenheim, Germany · Job Boards & Aggregators · Trust B · Hiring 412, 25 new
HQ: Rosenheim, Germany · Job Boards & Aggregators · Trust B · Hiring 412, 25 new
InnsalzachJobs is a regional online job portal for the Inn-Salzach area of Upper Bavaria, listing vacancies and apprenticeships from employers around Altötting, Burghausen, Mühldorf am Inn and Waldkraiburg without requiring candidate registration. The portal is run by OVB24, the digital arm of the Rosenheim-based OVB newspaper group, which sells recruiting advertising and consultations to regional employers ranging from manufacturers and engineering firms to retailers and municipalities. Its listings are posted by third-party employers and span skilled trades, production, engineering, sales, retail and office roles across southeastern Bavaria.
Florian Schiller · Geschäftsführung · decision-maker
Oliver Döser · Geschäftsführung · decision-maker
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Information Security Expert (m/w/d)

≈ $81k – $153k per year (Estimated) · Senior · In office (Burghausen, Germany) · Full-Time · Senior · German: C1 · English: B2
ISO 27001
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timpeo

timpeo.io
timpeo.io · HQ: Munich, Germany · Recruiting Software & ATS · Decision Intelligence · Hiring 1
HQ: Munich, Germany · Recruiting Software & ATS · Decision Intelligence · Hiring 1
Through Decision-Intelligence™ in Recruiting. We bring Decision-Intelligence™ to recruitment and channel the proven process expertise gained from over 10 years of successful recruitment consulting for more than 700 clients into an orchestrated system of specialized AI agents.
Matilda von Gierke · Managing Directors · decision-maker
Florian Burchett · Managing Directors · decision-maker
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≈ $76k – $145k per year (Estimated) · Senior · Hybrid (Munich, Germany) · Full-Time · Senior
PowerShell
DevOps
VPN
Azure
Ansible
Terraform
Cybersecurity
FortiGate
Zero Trust
ISO 27001
Management
ITIL
+1
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Deutsche Börse

deutsche-boerse.com
deutsche-boerse.com · HQ: Eschborn, Germany · Custody & Fund Administration · Financial Data & Market Intelligence · Stock Exchanges & Market Infrastructure · 1001-5000 employees · Est. 1993 · Trust B · Hiring 146, 8 new
HQ: Eschborn, Germany · Custody & Fund Administration · Financial Data & Market Intelligence · Stock Exchanges & Market Infrastructure · 1001-5000 employees · Est. 1993 · Trust B · Hiring 146, 8 new
Deutsche Börse is the German exchange group headquartered in Eschborn near Frankfurt. It runs the Xetra and Eurex trading platforms, the Clearstream settlement business and a large market data and analytics arm. The group operates some of the highest throughput trading technology in Europe and employs thousands of engineers.
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Junior Information Security Officer (f/m/d)

≈ $36k – $104k per year (Estimated) · Junior · In office (Frankfurt am Main, Germany) · Bachelor's Degree · Junior · German
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Cybersecurity Innovation & Agile Specialist (f/m/d)

≈ $35k – $101k per year (Estimated) · Junior · 2+ years exp · In office (Frankfurt am Main, Germany) · Junior · English
GCP
Management
Confluence
Jira
Scrum
Agile
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SWARCO

swarco.com
swarco.com · HQ: Wattens, Austria · Public Transport · Smart Mobility · 1001-5000 employees · Est. 1969 · Trust B · Hiring 100, 10 new
HQ: Wattens, Austria · Public Transport · Smart Mobility · 1001-5000 employees · Est. 1969 · Trust B · Hiring 100, 10 new
Founded in 1969, SWARCO is an international traffic technology and intelligent transportation systems (ITS) enterprise headquartered in Wattens, Austria. The company specializes in road safety solutions, urban and interurban traffic management, and smart mobility infrastructure. Its portfolio includes retroreflective micro glass beads, high-durability road marking materials, LED traffic signals, variable message signs, parking management software, public transport solutions, and vehicle-to-infrastructure (V2X) technologies.
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≈ $60k – $130k per year (Estimated) · In office (Unterensingen, Germany) · Full-Time · Intern · German
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IT Cyber Security Lead (m/w/d)

≈ $68k – $178k per year (Estimated) · Lead · In office (Unterensingen, Germany) · Full-Time · Middle · German: C1
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CyberSecurity Engineer (m/w/d)

≈ $71k – $134k per year (Estimated) · Senior · 5+ years exp · Hybrid (Berlin, Germany) · Full-Time · Senior · German: C1 · English
Kubernetes
CI/CD
Cybersecurity
OWASP SAMM
Sysdig Secure
OWASP
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TGM

tgm.de
tgm.de · HQ: Munich, Germany · Tax Advisory & Preparation · Legal Services · Audit & Assurance Firms · 51-200 employees · Hiring 1
HQ: Munich, Germany · Tax Advisory & Preparation · Legal Services · Audit & Assurance Firms · 51-200 employees · Hiring 1
TGM is a German professional services firm that has supported companies for more than 50 years with tax advice, statutory audit and legal advice. It combines auditors, tax advisors and lawyers and is building an IT audit team. The company is headquartered in Munich, Germany.
No named decision-maker yet.
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Verified live · 4 hours ago 27 days ago Likely open · 50%

IT Audit Manager (m/w/d)

≈ $54k – $111k per year (Estimated) · In office (Munich, Germany) · Full-Time · German: B2 · English: B2
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W&H Group

wh.group
wh.group · Lengerich · Industrial Machinery · Packaging & Labeling · 1001-5000 employees · Hiring 20, 1 new
Lengerich · Industrial Machinery · Packaging & Labeling · 1001-5000 employees · Hiring 20, 1 new
As a market and technology leader, W&H offers machines for the market of flexible packaging made of paper, woven fabric and film: from extrusion to printing and converting.
Christian Hagemeyer · Managing Director · decision-maker
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Verified live · 3 hours ago 28 days ago Likely open · 56%

Information Security Manager (m/w/d)

≈ $67k – $145k per year (Estimated) · Hybrid (Lengerich, Germany) · Full-Time · German: B2 · English: B2
ISO 27001
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Clariness

clariness.com
clariness.com · HQ: Berlin, Germany · Clinical Trial Sites & Recruitment · Est. 2005 · Trust B · Hiring 31
HQ: Berlin, Germany · Clinical Trial Sites & Recruitment · Est. 2005 · Trust B · Hiring 31
Clariness is a clinical trial patient recruitment and enrollment company founded in Berlin in 2005 by Michael Stadler, Nils Drews and Jens Stelling, helping pharmaceutical sponsors, CROs and study sites find, screen, enroll and retain trial participants. In 2026 it merged with the US patient recruitment firm SubjectWell, and the combined business reports 42,000 randomized patients across more than 400 indications and over 60 countries, supported by its ClinLife patient platform and ClinSight and ClinStudio tools. It hires multilingual freelance medical customer service representatives who screen patients by phone, plus AI and DevOps engineers, sales, partnerships, legal and marketing staff.
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Senior AI Security Engineer (f/m/d)

≈ $83k – $156k per year (Estimated) · Senior · 5+ years exp · Berlin · Hamburg · Remote (Germany, United Kingdom, Serbia) · GMP / cleanroom · Senior · English: B2 (Optional)
Function Calling
Red Teaming
EU AI Act
RAG
LLM
AI Agents
DevOps
CI/CD
Cybersecurity
OWASP Top 10
SOC 2
GDPR
+2
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Hawk

hawk.ai
hawk.ai · HQ: Denver, United States · Financial AI · Fraud Detection · RegTech, AML & Compliance · 11-50 employees · Est. 2017 · Startup · Hiring 20, 2 new
HQ: Denver, United States · Financial AI · Fraud Detection · RegTech, AML & Compliance · 11-50 employees · Est. 2017 · Startup · Hiring 20, 2 new
Fight financial crime. Reduce financial crime risks with AI precision Banks, payment firms, and fintechs worldwide use Hawk's award-winning fraud and AML technology to protect their institution and customers.
Peter McDermott · Executive Officer, Director · decision-maker
David Rubin · Executive Officer · decision-maker
Bryan Traficanti · Executive Officer · decision-maker
Eric Resnick · Executive Officer, Director · decision-maker
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Verified live · 3 hours ago 28 days ago Hiring now · 77%

Chief Information Security Officer (CISO)

≈ $110k – $266k per year (Estimated) · Head+ · In office (Munich, Berlin, Germany) · Full-Time · Architect · German: C1 (Optional)
Go
AI/ML
Red Teaming
LLM Guardrails
Explainable AI
DevOps
GitLab CI
IAM
GitHub
GCP
Kubernetes
CI/CD
AWS
Cybersecurity
SOC 2
Zero Trust
Least Privilege
SBOM
ISO 27001
GDPR
+9
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(Senior) Information Security Officer (German)

≈ $87k – $164k per year (Estimated) · Senior · 5+ years exp · Hybrid (Munich, Berlin, Germany) · Full-Time · Senior · English: C1 · German: C1
Explainable AI
DevOps
Windows
Linux
Cybersecurity
SOC 2
ISO 27001
Okta
GDPR
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Hypersonica

hypersonica.com
hypersonica.com · HQ: Munich, Germany · Space & Aerospace · Missiles · 501-1000 employees · Est. 2023 · Trust A · Hiring 64, 5 new
HQ: Munich, Germany · Space & Aerospace · Missiles · 501-1000 employees · Est. 2023 · Trust A · Hiring 64, 5 new
Hypersonica is a European defence and aerospace company developing hypersonic strike systems and related technologies for military and civilian applications, headquartered in Munich with a second base in London. Founded in 2023 by University of Oxford PhDs Marc Ewenz and Philipp Kerth and operating as Hypersonica GmbH, it has tested what it describes as a sovereign European hypersonic missile prototype and is scaling up engineering and production in Germany and the UK. It hires power electronics, FPGA, avionics, GNC, AIT, propulsion process and manufacturing engineers, plus quality, supply chain, buying and programme management staff.
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Verified live · 1 hour ago 28 days ago Hiring now · 90%

Information Security Officer

≈ $67k – $145k per year (Estimated) · In office (Munich, Germany) · Full-Time · English
ISO 27001
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Amprion

amprion.net
amprion.net · HQ: Dortmund, Germany · Smart Grid · Power Grid · 51-200 employees · Est. 2003 · Hiring 89, 5 new
HQ: Dortmund, Germany · Smart Grid · Power Grid · 51-200 employees · Est. 2003 · Hiring 89, 5 new
Amprion is a German electricity transmission system operator whose 11,000-kilometre extra-high-voltage grid carries power from the North Sea to the Alps. The grid spans seven federal states, serves about 29 million people, and the company hires technicians, line fitters, IT administrators and civil engineering project leads. The company is headquartered in Dortmund, Germany.
Russell Lebovitz · Executive Officer, Director · decision-maker
Rahul Bhansali · Director
Kenneth Lehman · Director
Peter Clinton · Director
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Verified live · 3 hours ago 28 days ago Likely open · 46%

IT-Security Expert Vulnerability Management (m/w/d)

≈ $82k – $154k per year (Estimated) · Senior · In office (Germany) · Senior · German: C1
NIST CSF
CVSS
EPSS
KEV
ISO 27001
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IT Security Engineer (m/w/d)

≈ $53k – $128k per year (Estimated) · Middle · 3+ years exp · In office (Germany) · Middle · German: B2 · English: B2
Unix
Linux
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Verified live · 3 hours ago 2 months ago Long shot · 16%

Information Security Manager DC-Netzprojekte (m/w/d)

≈ $66k – $142k per year (Estimated) · In office (Germany) · German: B2 · English: B2
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FRITZ!

fritz.com
fritz.com · Berlin · Internet Service Providers · Network Equipment · 501-1000 employees · Est. 1986 · Hiring 3
Berlin · Internet Service Providers · Network Equipment · 501-1000 employees · Est. 1986 · Hiring 3
Discover FRITZ! – Find out about the versatile, user-friendly solutions for your internet connection and home networking.
Jan-Christian Werner · Managing Directors · decision-maker
Jan Oetjen · Managing Directors · decision-maker
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28 days ago Fading · 33%

IT Security Engineer (m/w/d)

≈ $62k – $134k per year (Estimated) · In office (Berlin, Germany)
PowerShell
Python
DevOps
Linux
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Format Software

formatsoftware.de
formatsoftware.de · Dreieich · Custom Software Development · Est. 1988 · Hiring 2
Dreieich · Custom Software Development · Est. 1988 · Hiring 2
Format Software is an owner-managed German software company that has developed, sold and supported intelligent software solutions since 1988. It serves more than 1,400 customers from different industries and is recruiting an information security officer. The company is based in Germany.
No named decision-maker yet.
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$82k per year · Germany · Remote (Germany) · Full-Time
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Bundesverwaltungsamt

bva.bund.de
bva.bund.de · HQ: Cologne, Germany · Public Administration & Local Government · Digital Government · 5000+ employees · Hiring 12, 3 new
HQ: Cologne, Germany · Public Administration & Local Government · Digital Government · 5000+ employees · Hiring 12, 3 new
Bundesverwaltungsamt is the central service provider of the German federal government, a federal authority under the Federal Ministry of the Interior. It employs about 6,400 people at 23 locations and hires administrative staff, IT specialists and cybersecurity analysts. The authority is headquartered in Cologne, Germany.
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≈ $41k – $119k per year (Estimated) · Junior · Hybrid (Bonn, Germany) · Full-Time · Junior
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DKB Code Factory

dkbcodefactory.com
dkbcodefactory.com · HQ: Berlin, Germany · IT Consulting & Digital Transformation · Custom Software Development · 201-500 employees · Est. 2018 · Trust B · Hiring 29, 6 new
HQ: Berlin, Germany · IT Consulting & Digital Transformation · Custom Software Development · 201-500 employees · Est. 2018 · Trust B · Hiring 29, 6 new
DKB Code Factory. Emerged out of the DKB Group, Code Factory is where technological innovation meets exceptional design. We create intuitive, customer-centric digital products that make banking a seamless and reliable experience for everyone.
Alexander Lehsten · Managing Director · decision-maker
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Verified live · 13 min ago 29 days ago Hiring now · 79%

Security Detection Engineer (x/f/m)

≈ $61k – $131k per year (Estimated) · In office (Berlin, Germany) · English
Windows
Linux
Cybersecurity
SIEM
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Tchibo

tchibo.com
tchibo.com · HQ: Hamburg, Germany · MVNO · Apparel & Fashion Brands · E-commerce Platforms · 1001-5000 employees · Est. 1949 · Trust A · Hiring 195, 7 new
HQ: Hamburg, Germany · MVNO · Apparel & Fashion Brands · E-commerce Platforms · 1001-5000 employees · Est. 1949 · Trust A · Hiring 195, 7 new
Tchibo is a German family-owned coffee roaster and retailer headquartered in Hamburg, selling coffee alongside weekly changing non-food ranges through its own shops, supermarket shelves, online and a coffee service for businesses. Founded in 1949 and owned by the Herz family through maxingvest, it operates shops across Germany and in other European countries and also sells travel, insurance and mobile phone contracts. It hires part-time sales staff and shop manager trainees for its shops, building technicians and mechatronics staff for production, plus marketing, purchasing, IT security, B2B sales and junior management programme candidates.
Erik Hofstädter · Geschäftsführung · decision-maker
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29 days ago Long shot · 19%

Senior Security Analyst (m/w/d)

≈ $76k – $143k per year (Estimated) · Senior · Hybrid (Hamburg, Germany) · Senior · German: C1 · English
Microsoft Sentinel
SIEM
MITRE ATT&CK
NIST CSF
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bsi.bund.de · HQ: Bonn, Germany · Public Administration & Local Government · Information Security · Hiring 1
HQ: Bonn, Germany · Public Administration & Local Government · Information Security · Hiring 1
Federal Office for Information Security is the German federal cybersecurity authority, known as BSI. It publishes consumer guidance on topics such as secure passwords, smart home, artificial intelligence and identity theft, and employs around 1,800 people who work on a secure digital future for the country. The agency is headquartered in Bonn, Germany.
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≈ $41k – $119k per year (Estimated) · Junior · In office (Bonn, Germany) · Full-Time · Junior
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Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft

fraunhofer.de
fraunhofer.de · HQ: Munich, Germany · Engineering Services · Research Institutes · 1001-5000 employees · Est. 1949 · Trust A · Hiring 422, 36 new
HQ: Munich, Germany · Engineering Services · Research Institutes · 1001-5000 employees · Est. 1949 · Trust A · Hiring 422, 36 new
The Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft is Europe's largest organization for applied research, undertaking contract research for industry and government clients. Headquartered in Munich, Germany, the organization operates numerous specialized institutes that drive technological innovations across various scientific fields. By bridging the gap between academic research and commercial application, it delivers practical solutions that empower businesses and industries worldwide.
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Expert*in Identity & Access Management - Schwerpunkt Keycloak (all genders)

≈ $82k – $156k per year (Estimated) · Senior · In office (Bonn, Germany) · Senior · German: C1
IAM
Azure
Cybersecurity
Keycloak
Microsoft Entra ID
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Research Associate in Cybersecurity of Energy Systems in Heilbronn

≈ $63k – $137k per year (Estimated) · In office (Darmstadt, Germany) · Master's Degree
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STUDENTISCHE HILFSKRAFT im Bereich Software-Entwicklung für Cyber-Sicherheit

≈ $71k – $155k per year (Estimated) · In office (Bonn, Germany) · German: B2 · English: B2
YARA
Python
Python
SQLAlchemy
Databases
PostgreSQL
DevOps
GitHub
Docker
Cybersecurity
Ghidra
YARA
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Computacenter

computacenter.com
computacenter.com · HQ: Hatfield, United Kingdom · Adventure Tourism · IT Infrastructure & Networking Services · Cybersecurity · Managed IT Services (MSP) · Systems Integrators · IT Resellers & VARs · 5000+ employees · Est. 1981 · Trust A · Hiring 232, 6 new
HQ: Hatfield, United Kingdom · Adventure Tourism · IT Infrastructure & Networking Services · Cybersecurity · Managed IT Services (MSP) · Systems Integrators · IT Resellers & VARs · 5000+ employees · Est. 1981 · Trust A · Hiring 232, 6 new
Computacenter is a major British multinational IT infrastructure services provider and technology solutions company headquartered in Hatfield, Hertfordshire, United Kingdom. Founded in 1981 by Philip Hulme and Peter Ogden, the FTSE 100 constituent operates on a hybrid B2B/B2G technology reseller, systems integration, professional advisory, and managed IT services commercial model, generating multi-billion pound revenues across Europe and North America.
Reiner Louis · Vorstand · decision-maker
Karl-Heinz Reitz · Geschäftsführer · decision-maker
Tilmann Gramß · Geschäftsführer · decision-maker
Bernd Charpentier · Geschäftsführer · decision-maker
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Verified live · 5 hours ago 1 month ago Likely open · 47%

Senior IAM Consultant / Architect w/m/d Identity Governance & Administration

≈ $87k – $208k per year (Estimated) · Staff+ · In office (Frankfurt am Main, Germany) · Architect · German: C1
SOAP
IAM
Rest API
Cybersecurity
Okta
Microsoft Entra ID
LDAP
Active Directory
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Verified live · 5 hours ago 2 months ago Long shot · 21%

IT Security Consultant w/m/d Weiterentwicklung in DevSecOps & Application Security

≈ $66k – $142k per year (Estimated) · In office (Nuremberg, Germany) · German: C1
Linux
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IT Security (Senior) Consultant DevSecOps & Application Security w/m/d

≈ $76k – $143k per year (Estimated) · Senior · In office (Stuttgart, Germany) · Senior · German: C1 · English: B2
OpenShift
IAM
Git
Linux
Kubernetes
CI/CD
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Dkv Mobility

dkv-mobility.com
dkv-mobility.com · Bucharest · Ratingen · Leasing, Auto & Equipment Finance · Fleet Management · Hiring 3
Bucharest · Ratingen · Leasing, Auto & Equipment Finance · Fleet Management · Hiring 3
DKV Mobility is your provider for fuel cards & tolls, fleet management & much more: Europe-wide Efficient Learn more now!
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≈ $65k – $140k per year (Estimated) · Hybrid (Ratingen, Germany) · Full-Time
FortiGate
Zscaler
Zero Trust
SIEM
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≈ $63k – $136k per year (Estimated) · Hybrid (Ratingen, Germany) · Full-Time
Terraform
Azure
Cybersecurity
Microsoft Entra ID
Active Directory
Management
SharePoint
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Cybersecurity Engineer Salary in Germany
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